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Post by DocHolladay on Jun 3, 2009 0:43:03 GMT -6
manufacturers look bad and themselves look good. In my opinion, the others have greater internal damage than the Barnes. This damage is what brings animals down faster with less tracking, if any. Here is what Berger Bullets had to say about the tests Barnes did.... 02b0516.netsolhost.com/blog1/?cat=10I found this while looking to see what calibers Berger carried. I have been looking for a new rifle/caliber and was checking to see what Berger had bullet wise so that once I find the new rifle and caliber, I can reload for it. I am VERY pleased with how tight my .270 shoots now and cant wait to see what the VLD bullet will do to game. According to on game pics I have seen and the pics provided by Barnes, the VLD's will perform wickedly.
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Post by juliang on Jun 3, 2009 4:45:49 GMT -6
Goodness gracious! I will certainly be testing the VLD's on game in '09, everything I read confirms that they perform very effectively on game. It is pretty unusual to see bullet makers bitching at each other.
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Post by bubbawitha4570 on Jun 4, 2009 20:53:15 GMT -6
Most of this bickering is due to chips on the shoulders of the persons/companies' involved. I know from personal experience that if you choose a bullet that expands the way a hunting bullet should, hunt within your abilities (gun and personal), and put the bullet into the correct kill zone; only then will things work the way they need to. I've had bullets come completely apart inside of a deer, had them go completely through 'em, and found them in the "perfect" mushroomed condition; and there has always been a dead animal on the receiving end....
Don't get overly involved in the hype or advertising, just find one that works and USE IT WELL.
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Post by DocHolladay on Jun 4, 2009 23:41:25 GMT -6
I have used some ammo and the bullets did great. I just thought that it was bad for one bullet company to take and try to down another on the web where the public can do it. Most just use the term "Out performs other bullets".
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Post by bigblue on Jun 5, 2009 18:19:13 GMT -6
Under perfect conditions with a perfect shot any bullet will do the job. It's when hunters take less than perfect shots at bad angles that the penetration of bullets like Barnes TSX come in handy. It's sort of like having bullet insurance. Bullets that have rapid expansion properties have been known to come apart on bone before reaching vitals, but I've never experienced that problem either. This also goes back to the old argument regarding which is better, a bullets energy being expended inside a critter or complete penetration. I've always believed two holes are better than one. More air in and more blood out. I don't however believe you need to use a Barnes bullet to achieve that end. So far I've never taken a long enough shot on big game to take advantage of Berger's high ballistic coefficient advantage. I guess what it comes down to for me is that when Sierra Gamekings, Remington Core-Loct and Hornady SST Interlocked bullets fail to do their job, I'll start looking at others. Don
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Post by smokepolehall on Sept 2, 2009 5:36:11 GMT -6
i didn't read or listen to Barnes statement. i have been reloading for about 40 yrs. what i have learned is that most companys make a very good bullet for your game. some ppl try to push them faster than intended, that may lead to a bullet fragmenting. ppl, those bullets get very hot coming out the bbl. a person can always back off abit of velocity and the bullet should hold together better. were talking about a thin copper jacket on lead projectile here. we all know lead melts at lower temps. i have use Rem. & Speer & Nosler to great effect. penetration, it doesn't take alot to go through thin skinned game like deer in their ribcage area. so Barnes is trying to gather up more of the pie, shame on them. don't listen to a thing i say as i am a half bubble off & live in the Land of Rocks, ;D
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