.45 Colt Carbine

[bigblue]

I think I might be doing this in reverse, but I had to jump on the deal while it was there. I ordered an H&R BC .45 Colt Carbine this morning online from Davidson's Gallery of Guns. It has a nice checkered walnut stock and case color receiver finish just like it's 45/70 big brother BC, but this only has a 20" barrel. On another forum we had been discussing single action revolvers and while I was looking at Ruger Blackhawks, Vaqueros and USFA revolvers in .45 Colt, I got the idea that it would be nice to have a carbine chambered for the same cartridge. The H&R was on sale for $260, but the sale ended today so I had to jump on it. I didn't really need another rifle, but there was a very strong want factor playing out here. Now I need a new single action .45 Colt revolver to go with it. See this is really working out for the best already!
Here's a stock photo of the one I ordered.
Don

[DocHolladay]

Look into Uberti or Cimarron. The Uberti is the most affordable and shoots great.

[bigblue]

I still have an urge for that birdshead, but a longer barrel makes more sense accuracy wise. I read this post a while ago on Paco Kelly's Leverguns Forum and it's pretty informative in regards to single action revolvers and written from a gunsmith's point of view.

"My perspective on the various SAA's is from a gunsmiths view. Not what they cost or how well they retain their value. Purely from the mechanical perspective.

If you want tuff out of the box, Ruger is the way to go. Even though the New Vaquero looks very much like a Colt SAA I don`t consider it to be a clone.

The ruger lock works were designed in the 1950's. It is nothing like the colt style lock basically unchanged since 1836.

Comparing Rugers to colts is like comparing model T`s to 60`s muscle cars.

As for the colt style SAA's I think the current USFA gun are the very best SAA available today. The current colts are good guns too, but a few years back I had issues with some of the 3rd gen colts so I'm a bit gun shy toward colts. If their QC stays at current levels I may change my mind.

You mentioned the Berretta Stamepedes and Taurus gaucho's. Those guns have had some problems mostly related to timing issue and some have had small parts related to the transfer bar failures. Both the Berretta and the taurus are based on the colt style lock work but have had the add-on tranfer parts added. The colt style lock work is a robust design but does not lend itself well to these small delicate add on parts. Over the long haul these small parts don't hold up.

Comparing the Berretta Stamepedes and Taurus gaucho's to the Ruger would be like adding a catalitic converter and a smog pump to that Model "T".

As for the Italian SAA's, I think the EMF GWII's (made for EMF by Pietta) are the very best SAA coming out of Italy now.

When EMF decided to import these, Will Hansen, EMF`s manager sent one to me for a look-see. He told me take it apart, shoot it, whatever I wanted to do. These guns are late 2nd gen configured with 3rd gen style bolts with the rounded finger tips. This helps prevent premature bolt cam wear. They even have firing pin bushings like the originals but EMF did have them change the weakest link in the colt action, the leaf type hand spring. They changed to the Ruger style coil spring and plunger. The only add-on safety is the two position cylinder base pin. this part is easy to change.
The current Uberti guns are good guns. Uberti no longer makes there old "D" cam guns. These early Uberti guns were prone to go out of time prematurely. Uberti has up dated to the Ruger type coil spring for the hand spring. They are much better but aren't as close to the originals as the GWII.

Steve Young aka Nate Kiowa Jones Sass# 6765

Steve's Guns aka "Rossi 92 Specialists"
4525 Alamosa st.
Port Arthur TX 77642"

I think the Ruger Blackhawk is hard to beat for sheer strength, but I'd like to have it with a steel grip frame and the blued version only comes with aluminum. Now the SS version is all SS so it has the better balance of an all steel grip frame.
Don

[bigblue]

Here's a few photos of the BC Carbine I recently bought. I think H&R did real good picking out this piece of walnut. It is wearing a Williams WGRS sight and has the dovetail for the original sight filled with a Marbles blank.
Don

[DocHolladay]

Looks good. One suggestion, wipe thos dusty prints off....lol.

[bigblue]

Feb 14, 2010 16:02:20 GMT -6 DocHolladay said:

One suggestion, wipe thos dusty prints off....lol.

I added them with photo shop just to give it that much sought after rustic look. LOL!!!
Don