Post by locksley on Feb 4, 2006 19:09:48 GMT -6
Winchester is closing the factory that makes there rifles. They will make them in Japan or some other sorry place like that. These anti-gun law suits are destroying the American gun companies and putting men out of work.
posted 01-18-2006 05:50 PM
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NEW HAVEN, Connecticut (AP) -- The traditional Winchester rifles carried by pioneers, movie stars and Wild West lawmen will be discontinued in March, its Belgian manufacturer said Wednesday, confirming the end of an American icon that became known as "The Gun that Won the West."
Once the U.S. Repeating Arms plant in New Haven, Connecticut, closes on March 31, the only new rifles carrying the famous Winchester name will be the modern, high-end models produced in Belgium, Japan and Portugal. The older models, including the famous Winchester Model 94, will be scrapped.
"The name will continue, but not with those traditional products," said Robert Sauvage, a spokesman for the Herstal Group, the Belgian company that owns U.S. Repeating Arms and the right to the Winchester name.
Herstal announced Tuesday that the U.S. Repeating Arms factory would soon close, capping 140 years of Winchester manufacturing in New Haven.
"Economically speaking, we cannot continue. We have lost a lot of money," Sauvage said.
More than 19,000 Winchester employees worked in New Haven during World War II, but after years of a softening firearms market, the plant now employs fewer than 200. All will lose their jobs when the plant closes.
Officials and union leaders said they hoped someone would buy the plant and continue building the traditional rifles, but the Winchester name wouldn't necessarily come with the factory. Such an arrangement would need to be worked out separately.
Missouri-based Olin Corp. owns the Winchester brand name. In the late 1970s, after a massive strike by its machinists, Olin sold the plant to U.S. Repeating Arms along with the right to use the Winchester name until next year.
Sauvage said the Herstal Group wants to extend that right past 2007 but Olin has not decided whether to allow it. Spokeswoman Ann Pipkin said Olin is disappointed with Herstal's decision to close the plant and may sell the Winchester naming rights to someone else.
"The legendary Winchester name, we want it to be on a great-quality firearm," she said.
The Winchester model 1873 lever action rifle, popular among American frontiersmen at the end of the 19th century for its reliability, inspired the 1950 James Stewart film "Winchester '73."
John Wayne made the Winchester a signature of his movies and Chuck Connors posed menacingly with his Winchester on advertisements for the television series "The Rifleman."
President Teddy Roosevelt also was a Winchester devotee, using the 1895 model on his famous 1909 African safari, which historians credited with boosting the sale of Winchester sporting rifles.
While collectors were drawn to Winchester's many commemorative or special-edition rifles, sportsmen often still hunt with rifles that are generations old, a longevity that historian R.L. Wilson said became both the hallmark of the Winchester brand and part of its demise.
"It's not unusual in my work, I'll talk to someone, they'll say, 'I've got my rifle that belonged to my grandfather. I'm still using it,"' Wilson said. "These things get recycled as long as you keep a gun clean and you look after it."
Sauvage said Herstal is proud to have manufactured Winchester rifles for so long. He said he thinks customers will continue buying the new line of weapons, which can be produced quickly and for less money, because Belgium, like America, has a reputation for quality manufacturing.
Others say it won't be the same.
"It would be like Chevrolet going out of business or Chevrolet being made in Japan or China," firearms historian Ned Schwing said. "Winchester is an American legend, whether you're a gun person or not."
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Not a marketing ploy Winchester is gone there rifles are made at the plant that is closing.
Ithiaca shotgun company went under again this year and I doubt we will ever see that John Browning design again.
I guess you-all will wake up when Remington goes out of buisness also.
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I guess you-all will wake up when Remington goes out of business also.
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You are correct, when Big Green goes down, I will start to worry.
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Ditto.
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You guys do know they are having their own promblems.Hope they can hold on and fix there's.
Tiny
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Dupont sold Remington off years ago so the deep pockets are no longer there if a lawsuit goes the wrong way Remington will go the way of the other companies innovative copies of the 1917 Enfield will not compete with Chinese copies of the same. I sure would like a model 30 Remington on the 1917 Enfield action though.
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posted 01-18-2006 05:50 PM
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www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/17/winchester.ap/index.html
NEW HAVEN, Connecticut (AP) -- The traditional Winchester rifles carried by pioneers, movie stars and Wild West lawmen will be discontinued in March, its Belgian manufacturer said Wednesday, confirming the end of an American icon that became known as "The Gun that Won the West."
Once the U.S. Repeating Arms plant in New Haven, Connecticut, closes on March 31, the only new rifles carrying the famous Winchester name will be the modern, high-end models produced in Belgium, Japan and Portugal. The older models, including the famous Winchester Model 94, will be scrapped.
"The name will continue, but not with those traditional products," said Robert Sauvage, a spokesman for the Herstal Group, the Belgian company that owns U.S. Repeating Arms and the right to the Winchester name.
Herstal announced Tuesday that the U.S. Repeating Arms factory would soon close, capping 140 years of Winchester manufacturing in New Haven.
"Economically speaking, we cannot continue. We have lost a lot of money," Sauvage said.
More than 19,000 Winchester employees worked in New Haven during World War II, but after years of a softening firearms market, the plant now employs fewer than 200. All will lose their jobs when the plant closes.
Officials and union leaders said they hoped someone would buy the plant and continue building the traditional rifles, but the Winchester name wouldn't necessarily come with the factory. Such an arrangement would need to be worked out separately.
Missouri-based Olin Corp. owns the Winchester brand name. In the late 1970s, after a massive strike by its machinists, Olin sold the plant to U.S. Repeating Arms along with the right to use the Winchester name until next year.
Sauvage said the Herstal Group wants to extend that right past 2007 but Olin has not decided whether to allow it. Spokeswoman Ann Pipkin said Olin is disappointed with Herstal's decision to close the plant and may sell the Winchester naming rights to someone else.
"The legendary Winchester name, we want it to be on a great-quality firearm," she said.
The Winchester model 1873 lever action rifle, popular among American frontiersmen at the end of the 19th century for its reliability, inspired the 1950 James Stewart film "Winchester '73."
John Wayne made the Winchester a signature of his movies and Chuck Connors posed menacingly with his Winchester on advertisements for the television series "The Rifleman."
President Teddy Roosevelt also was a Winchester devotee, using the 1895 model on his famous 1909 African safari, which historians credited with boosting the sale of Winchester sporting rifles.
While collectors were drawn to Winchester's many commemorative or special-edition rifles, sportsmen often still hunt with rifles that are generations old, a longevity that historian R.L. Wilson said became both the hallmark of the Winchester brand and part of its demise.
"It's not unusual in my work, I'll talk to someone, they'll say, 'I've got my rifle that belonged to my grandfather. I'm still using it,"' Wilson said. "These things get recycled as long as you keep a gun clean and you look after it."
Sauvage said Herstal is proud to have manufactured Winchester rifles for so long. He said he thinks customers will continue buying the new line of weapons, which can be produced quickly and for less money, because Belgium, like America, has a reputation for quality manufacturing.
Others say it won't be the same.
"It would be like Chevrolet going out of business or Chevrolet being made in Japan or China," firearms historian Ned Schwing said. "Winchester is an American legend, whether you're a gun person or not."
www.tndeer.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=29;t=001072
Not a marketing ploy Winchester is gone there rifles are made at the plant that is closing.
Ithiaca shotgun company went under again this year and I doubt we will ever see that John Browning design again.
I guess you-all will wake up when Remington goes out of buisness also.
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Originally posted by Hillbilly Hunter:
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Originally posted by Dr. Spud Dickel:
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Originally posted by Locksley:
I guess you-all will wake up when Remington goes out of business also.
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You are correct, when Big Green goes down, I will start to worry.
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Ditto.
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You guys do know they are having their own promblems.Hope they can hold on and fix there's.
Tiny
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Dupont sold Remington off years ago so the deep pockets are no longer there if a lawsuit goes the wrong way Remington will go the way of the other companies innovative copies of the 1917 Enfield will not compete with Chinese copies of the same. I sure would like a model 30 Remington on the 1917 Enfield action though.
www.tndeer.com/ubb/NonCGI/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=003306
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To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;"The greatest pain a man can suffer is to have knowledge of much, and power over nothing" - Herodotus