Post by locksley on May 27, 2006 14:27:37 GMT -6
TWRC Closes Hunting Area Without Public Notice
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TWRC Closes Hunting Area Without Public Notice
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Here ya go:
TWRC Closes Hunting Area Without Public Notice
Hunter reaction is swift, claims of political favoritism
www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_86493.asp
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Re: TWRC Closes Hunting Area Without Public Notice
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Thanks Locksley. I think this going to end being one hell of ride with TWRC, so hold on tight!!!
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Re: TWRC Closes Hunting Area Without Public Notice
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Asked if he thought there was political favoritism involved, Mr. Kimsey said, "I can't say if there is or there isn't. I am told the gentleman is a lobbyist and of course Mr. Hensley is a lobbyist."
Kimsey went on to say that Jeannette Rudy was adamantly against the closure.
"I'll have to give her credit," said Kimsey. "She actually visited the site. She said, 'the hunting area was there first. (The man buying the adjoining land) should have known exactly what was there before he bought it."
One Middle Tennessee sportsman spoke with Ms. Rudy quoted her saying, "I have been a commissioner for his district for five years of a six year term. I was the last to hear of this problem. He is a close personal friend of Tom Hensely and it is my opinion Mr. Hensley was doing a friend a favor. However, the TWRA and TWRC are not in the business of taking hunting land away from Tennessee hunters as a personal favor... This measure has opened a Pandora's box in terms of setting a precedent that we all may regret."
dont they call hensley "golden goose" ?
Yep that stinks and the commision should suck up some back water.
As far as the redefing units, they should have put morgan and scott county into some quota doe tags. And i bet they will still screw up the mz season!
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Re: TWRC Closes Hunting Area Without Public Notice
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4forabuck
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so it was a good'ol boy thing!!!!
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"I don't think it would have changed my vote. I don't know what other factors we could have other than some people saying they hunted on it. I don't know how many people can hunt on 100 acres."
It's 900 acres!!
And "yes" I can hunt on 100. I wish I had a 100 to hunt ne.
Dont' we all? Many of my spots on PP WMA are 15 and less.
What is most telling abotu that interview is that Lock 5 is layed out just as the rest of Old Hickory WMA. Actually it's just a 1 mile section of OH WMA set aside. It's mosly flood zone that is leased to local farmers. The smae can be found at PP, Cordell Hull, Dale Hollow and all other Corps Lakes.
If Lock 5 is considered "Not fit for Hunting" Then the rest WILL follow.
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Correct me if I am wrong but, in that link he states 1 time that is 900 acres then goes on to say that "he is not sure on how many people can hunt 100 acres"?
I think it is BS and is a very good example of the good ol boy system.
He says that he is not for closing public land, but did the exact thing that he says he opposes.
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Originally posted by Jason Bagby:
Correct me if I am wrong but, in that link he states 1 time that is 900 acres then goes on to say that "he is not sure on how many people can hunt 100 acres"?
I think it is BS and is a very good example of the good ol boy system.
He says that he is not for closing public land, but did the exact thing that he says he opposes.
What an idiot.
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There are 900 acres total at Locke 5. Only the south side has been closed and he is saying it is 100 acres, which is wrong.
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Typical and very common practice in the political arena.
Confuse the facts with untruths and the ones that vote on it, that know nothing about it, will sway to the way he wants them to.
Make it sound like no big deal and they will say, well they have X number of thousands of acres to hunt on in TN, what is 100?
Pitiful, just simply trying to cover his butt.
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Jason Bagby
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Gotcha.
If it was that big of a concern to them, why didnt he push to have the whole place shut down instead of just around the property of one his acknowledged friends?
Seems to me that his buddy got the chance to expand his hunting opportunity at the expense of all the tax payers.
Wonder if he hunts, or will be hunting, the farm that his buddy owns?
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By the way did anyone notice this land grabbers comment.
I think the whole 900 acres should be closed down for hunting. It's supposed to be a refuge.
He would like to close the whole 900 acres and I am sure he wouldn't mind closing the rest of the refuges in that state also, since he hasn't got a clue what a refuge is intended for.
This guy claims to be the most active hunters and fisher on the commission, yet he doesn't even have a basic understaing of our public land system. If he's the most active, you can imagine the limited knowledge the other members have.
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King Crappie Luck2
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What's a 100? What's a thousand"
Why, this here man hunts and fishes more than any of 'em.
Who needs them little 900 acres tracs of public land when you got thousands of acres of leases and "freebies" from lobbyist.
Screw the little guy.
locksley
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TWRC Closes Hunting Area Without Public Notice
« Thread Started on Yesterday at 2:56pm »
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Here ya go:
TWRC Closes Hunting Area Without Public Notice
Hunter reaction is swift, claims of political favoritism
www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_86493.asp
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To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding; "The greatest pain a man can suffer is to have knowledge of much, and power over nothing" - Herodotus
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Re: TWRC Closes Hunting Area Without Public Notice
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Thanks Locksley. I think this going to end being one hell of ride with TWRC, so hold on tight!!!
tonto
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Re: TWRC Closes Hunting Area Without Public Notice
« Reply #2 on Today at 8:30am »
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Asked if he thought there was political favoritism involved, Mr. Kimsey said, "I can't say if there is or there isn't. I am told the gentleman is a lobbyist and of course Mr. Hensley is a lobbyist."
Kimsey went on to say that Jeannette Rudy was adamantly against the closure.
"I'll have to give her credit," said Kimsey. "She actually visited the site. She said, 'the hunting area was there first. (The man buying the adjoining land) should have known exactly what was there before he bought it."
One Middle Tennessee sportsman spoke with Ms. Rudy quoted her saying, "I have been a commissioner for his district for five years of a six year term. I was the last to hear of this problem. He is a close personal friend of Tom Hensely and it is my opinion Mr. Hensley was doing a friend a favor. However, the TWRA and TWRC are not in the business of taking hunting land away from Tennessee hunters as a personal favor... This measure has opened a Pandora's box in terms of setting a precedent that we all may regret."
dont they call hensley "golden goose" ?
Yep that stinks and the commision should suck up some back water.
As far as the redefing units, they should have put morgan and scott county into some quota doe tags. And i bet they will still screw up the mz season!
Bastages
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locksley
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Re: TWRC Closes Hunting Area Without Public Notice
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4forabuck
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posted 05-26-2006 04:54 PM
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so it was a good'ol boy thing!!!!
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sad no matter what it is
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"I don't think it would have changed my vote. I don't know what other factors we could have other than some people saying they hunted on it. I don't know how many people can hunt on 100 acres."
It's 900 acres!!
And "yes" I can hunt on 100. I wish I had a 100 to hunt ne.
Dont' we all? Many of my spots on PP WMA are 15 and less.
What is most telling abotu that interview is that Lock 5 is layed out just as the rest of Old Hickory WMA. Actually it's just a 1 mile section of OH WMA set aside. It's mosly flood zone that is leased to local farmers. The smae can be found at PP, Cordell Hull, Dale Hollow and all other Corps Lakes.
If Lock 5 is considered "Not fit for Hunting" Then the rest WILL follow.
CL
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Jason Bagby
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Correct me if I am wrong but, in that link he states 1 time that is 900 acres then goes on to say that "he is not sure on how many people can hunt 100 acres"?
I think it is BS and is a very good example of the good ol boy system.
He says that he is not for closing public land, but did the exact thing that he says he opposes.
[ 05-27-2006, 10:35 AM: Message edited by: David J ]
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Todd
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posted 05-26-2006 05:29 PM
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quote:
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Originally posted by Jason Bagby:
Correct me if I am wrong but, in that link he states 1 time that is 900 acres then goes on to say that "he is not sure on how many people can hunt 100 acres"?
I think it is BS and is a very good example of the good ol boy system.
He says that he is not for closing public land, but did the exact thing that he says he opposes.
What an idiot.
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There are 900 acres total at Locke 5. Only the south side has been closed and he is saying it is 100 acres, which is wrong.
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posted 05-26-2006 05:31 PM
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Typical and very common practice in the political arena.
Confuse the facts with untruths and the ones that vote on it, that know nothing about it, will sway to the way he wants them to.
Make it sound like no big deal and they will say, well they have X number of thousands of acres to hunt on in TN, what is 100?
Pitiful, just simply trying to cover his butt.
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www.thehuntbydmires.com
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Jason Bagby
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posted 05-26-2006 05:33 PM
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Gotcha.
If it was that big of a concern to them, why didnt he push to have the whole place shut down instead of just around the property of one his acknowledged friends?
Seems to me that his buddy got the chance to expand his hunting opportunity at the expense of all the tax payers.
Wonder if he hunts, or will be hunting, the farm that his buddy owns?
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Let em Grow!!
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Todd
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posted 05-26-2006 05:37 PM
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By the way did anyone notice this land grabbers comment.
I think the whole 900 acres should be closed down for hunting. It's supposed to be a refuge.
He would like to close the whole 900 acres and I am sure he wouldn't mind closing the rest of the refuges in that state also, since he hasn't got a clue what a refuge is intended for.
This guy claims to be the most active hunters and fisher on the commission, yet he doesn't even have a basic understaing of our public land system. If he's the most active, you can imagine the limited knowledge the other members have.
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King Crappie Luck2
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posted 05-26-2006 05:37 PM
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What's a 100? What's a thousand"
Why, this here man hunts and fishes more than any of 'em.
Who needs them little 900 acres tracs of public land when you got thousands of acres of leases and "freebies" from lobbyist.
Screw the little guy.
