High Cap Rifle For The Politically Stranded

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Many of the more politically correct states don't trust their citizens to own military looking rifles. Well here's a high cap for those stranded by political motivations. It's a Remington 870 shotgun converted to .223 by Remington and uses AR-15 magazines. It's aimed at the police market as a low profile answer to the AR-15 and named the 7615P The real world price is a bit over $500.

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Those are supposed to be good as far as accuracy is concerned, considering the pump hanging off the front end/barrel. They also have a .308 version that takes AR_10 mags, if I'm remembering correctly.

But for those who just HAVE to have something different:



And if you're REALLY needing a fix like that:



The info on www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/5.56x45mm/pump_pistol.aspx


Pump rifles and pistols....something that works for some. Sorry to say that, but like BB said, some don't really have a choice in our current world situation.

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let's see if this works...




not like I wanted it to, but here's a link to the poster I tried to get up:

www.remingtonle.com/pdf/7615Pposter.pdf

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And something that was put out a year ago by the NRA on these rifles. www.nrapublications.org/TAR/Remington7615P.asp

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...and BTW, I was wrong about the .308 version taking anything decent for magazines....looks like they are the standard 7600 type: pretty junky for tac use.

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And something I just found over at glocktalk concerning these Remingtons...

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tinfinger
Member

Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Oklahoma


I'm not sure the Remington pump that takes AR mags is working quite as well as thought. I ran across an LEO discussion the other day. The pump apparently requires ALOT of force when working over a fully loaded AR mag. It's not like pumping a shotgun, where the tube mag easily feeds one at a time into the carrier. So the action is not smooth nor particularly fast - at least with a full mag - and people are short stroking them.

There is also something about having to elevate the muzzle to insert a new mag when the bolt is closed. There is some internal part that has to move "out of the way".

I still think it would make an interesting suppressor platform, maybe using downloaded mags. I think the AR and Mini-14 beat it for ergonomics.

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I could have sworn that they sold a .308 version of this rifle also, but couldn't find a reference to it on Reminton's site.
I always thought it was odd that they referred to this as a low profile rifle for LEOs. They can have their pick of any rifle they want, at least any approved by the higher ups within their departments, why pick a pump rifle? I would think the Springfield SOCOM would be a better choice for them. Along that line of thought I think their real goal was sales within states that don't allow semi-auto military style rifles in the hands of their citizens. Even at that, I'm not sure what the ruling would be in states that allow only ten round magazines when any size made for the AR could be used in this. Of course if the magazine spring pressure caused by a ten rounder was too much to easily cycle, I can't imagine what a full thirty or forty rounder would feel like.