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Post by bigblue on Jun 9, 2007 17:24:10 GMT -6
I got the Stevens 200 home on Thursday and started working on it right away. There are two big complaints people have with the Stevens 200. The first is the flimsy forearm on the synthetic stock. I used a Dremel to create two channels, one down each side of the forearm. I cut brass rods to fit and used J. B. Weld to bed the rods in and fill in the open areas of the forearm. The second complaint most have is the trigger pull. The lawyers really gave Savage a going over on this trigger. It came out of the box at 6.75lbs. A few turns of the screwdriver and it now has a trigger pull of 3.75lbs., a big difference. I mounted an Alpen 2.5-10x44 scope on it and painted the ugly gray stock so it's ready to go. I picked up dies, cases, bullets and powder on Friday and loaded some 130gr. Nosler Partitions, 130gr. Sierra GameKings and 130gr. Remington pointed soft point core-loct bullets, so it's all set for the range. Here's a Pic! Don
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Post by DocHolladay on Jun 9, 2007 23:10:11 GMT -6
Very nice. I like the 130 loads from Remington and I REALLY like the 140 loads from Hornady...... so does my rifle.
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Post by bigblue on Jun 10, 2007 13:03:14 GMT -6
Here's what my first .270 handloads can do from 50 yards out. This is using the Rem. 130gr. PSPCL bullets and H4831SC powder. I have to make some more, adjust the scope, and try them at 100 yards. Don
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Post by DocHolladay on Jun 10, 2007 23:05:52 GMT -6
Looks fantastic. How does it shoot? I know, but I like hearing different peoples opinions on these things.
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Post by bigblue on Jun 11, 2007 17:48:08 GMT -6
Doc, It feels very similar to the 30-06 with just a bit less kick. You still know you have a long action centerfire, but very managable. I'm sure it will go on at least one deer hunt with me this year. I've often wondered why the .270 isn't often considered for long range shooting. the ballistic numbers say it should work well, but you just don't see this cartridge in any competition. It may well be it suffers from the fact it never was chosen as a military cartridge. That seems to be a ticket to instant popularity. It does have a very strong following, especially out in the plains States where longer shots are the norm rather than the exception. With the right loads it should be sufficient for anything in the lower 48 short of a grizzly, at least out to 400 yards. Don
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Post by DocHolladay on Jun 12, 2007 0:16:17 GMT -6
I agree with everything you said.
I was talking to my brother one day about the .270 Win. and the .270WSM. By experimenting with loads, he has found that you can load the .270 using 150gr bullets and varying gr. of powder to get the exact same velocity, ft/lb's and range, if not better, than the .270WSM. Some people would rather spend a lot of money on a new rifle and scope, than buy reloading equipment and everything needed to reload to get the desired results. I am pretty sure that you would save some money getting the reloading gear over buying a new rifle set up.
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Post by bigblue on Jun 12, 2007 14:03:16 GMT -6
Supplies to load the .270- Lee Pacesetter Dies-$18.99, 100 130gr. Sierra Gameking bullets-$21.99, 100 130gr. Remington PSPCL bullets-$13.99, 100 Winchester cases-$28.99, bullet puller collet-$6.99, case trimmer pilot-$4.99, and 1lb of H4831SC powder-$26.99. Total-$122.93+Tax
I already have a few thousand large rifle primers so I didn't include those. Don
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Post by bubbawitha4570 on Jun 23, 2007 6:50:57 GMT -6
I agree with everything you said. I was talking to my brother one day about the .270 Win. and the .270WSM. By experimenting with loads, he has found that you can load the .270 using 150gr bullets and varying gr. of powder to get the exact same velocity, ft/lb's and range, if not better, than the .270WSM. Some people would rather spend a lot of money on a new rifle and scope, than buy reloading equipment and everything needed to reload to get the desired results. I am pretty sure that you would save some money getting the reloading gear over buying a new rifle set up. Alot of the hype around these short mags is just that, hype. with most of the original cartridges some judicious handloading does the same or better than the short mags. The only bonus that I can see with them is the "short" part of the receiver length they afford. And for me, that is nothing to go out and spend another chunk of change for when needing something for shooting.
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Post by jorg2007 on Sept 30, 2007 12:42:46 GMT -6
How is you Stevens Model 200 in .270 going ,have you tried any 100m groups yet.I have just purchaced one in 270 and adjusted the trigger ,just have to get a scope with a long enough tube now.
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Post by bigblue on Sept 30, 2007 17:20:58 GMT -6
jorg2007, Congrats on buying the Stevens! I haven't had much time lately to play at the range, but I did have three shot 100 yard groups with the .270 measuring between .86"-1.21". It's not going to win any matches, but more than accurate for deer hunting. Once the season is over I'll play with the loads a bit more and see if I can improve it any. I want to try a couple of other bullet designs and see if it improves accuracy. Possibly the Nosler Accubond bullets. By comparison, my .308 Savage heavy barreled Mod. 12FV using Berger bullets, shot three shot 100 yard groups measuring .40" on it's first trip to the range! Don
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Post by jorg2007 on Sept 30, 2007 23:27:15 GMT -6
Sounds good cant wait.What sort of mounts are you using on both of your Stevens ?by the looks of the photo with the alpen scope looks like millet with a weaver bases.I am trying to decide to buy leupold bases or just us millet with weaver style dovetail bases ,do you think the leupold bases with turn in ring would be more solid? also thinking of buying a bit better quality US made leupold 3-9x40 vx1 scope to put on mine after doing lots of searches in forums about this rifle in this calibre or larger and people having the scope dyeing on it because of the recoil from the light sporter.
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Post by smokepolehall on Oct 1, 2007 5:10:55 GMT -6
Glad you got yer 270 all ready to hunt with. Never had a 270, i know its a great cal. I am not getting the 45/70. My left shoulder is so bad i even had to trade my CB fer a lesser poundage model.
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Post by bigblue on Oct 2, 2007 18:42:31 GMT -6
jorg2007, You hit it right on the money in regards to the bases and rings! I had to go pull it from the safe to see. The bases and rings I put on my Savage are Leupold and definitely appear stronger, but then again I haven't had a problem with the Weaver bases and Millet rings on the .270 either. You won't find an unkind word in my vocabulary when it comes to Leupold scopes. Without a doubt they have the best service dept. I've ever dealt with. I only ever experienced one problem with one of their scopes. I got it used and an internal part loosened up. They fixed it free of charge, the scope was returned at their expense and in better shape than when I first got it. The VXI line and their Rifleman line appear to be one and the same. I have an older Vari-X II scope, 2.5-8x40 that has been on many rifles including 45/70, .300 WSM and 7mm Rem. Mags and it has never experienced a single problem. Nikon also makes some great scopes for the money. Don
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Post by bigblue on Oct 2, 2007 18:56:57 GMT -6
I am not getting the 45/70. My left shoulder is so bad i even had to trade my CB fer a lesser poundage model. I'm very sorry to hear about your problems with your shoulder. I know you were looking forward to that 45/70. I have 9 more years to work before retirement. I dream about having all that free time to spend in the woods with a rifle in my hands. I just keep hoping that I'm still in good enough shape to be able to do it. In the past few years I've had a few major stumbling blocks thrown in my way when it comes to health, but so far nothing that will keep me out of the woods. Don
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Post by juliang on Oct 4, 2007 8:08:53 GMT -6
Hi Don, I saw your report on 100 yard groups and I wonder if you have adjusted the trigger on that rifle. As you know, I have a pre-accutrigger Savage and adjusting the trigger has made a huge difference to the rifle. I have the instructions on a Word document if you'd like me to email you. The Stevens trigger is identical, easy to do, very effective and FREE!!! I just bought a pound of the H4831sc for the 7mm and only paid $20, you might want to look somewhere else for your powder.
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